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	<description>Not your average bipolar, obsessive-compulsive liberal Christian feminist.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dannah Gresh&#8217;s response by Nick Kerner</title>
		<link>http://disturbinginfluence.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/dannah-greshs-response/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Kerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That depends on how you define feminism.  You could be talking about feminism or radical feminism, of which there is a difference.  I also do not know much of Dannah Gresh, other than she has spoke about immodesty as if it is a very negative thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That depends on how you define feminism.  You could be talking about feminism or radical feminism, of which there is a difference.  I also do not know much of Dannah Gresh, other than she has spoke about immodesty as if it is a very negative thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on modesty article by Nick Kerner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The point is that men have no say in how women dress.&quot;

Apparently a few women are offended by immodesty and seem to want a say in how women dress, and you have ignored them.  These are the women that went to the modesty panel, and didn&#039;t plan on writing an article bashing it.  They went to hear input from men so that they could dress modestly.  They merely wanted to know what the men thought.  The men did not say, you need to dress like this, from what I have heard (every attendee that I have come into contact with except for you) they merely said what could cause them to stumble.  Why would the women care what would cause men to stumble?  Because they love them.  

Conservative Christians are supposed to love everyone, loving them includes holding them close to ourselves AND letting them know when we think they are not in accordance with the Bible.  Also, have you ever witnessed someone trip flat on their face?  Walking should be easy, but apparently people fail, and somebody trips every day! 

It is also interesting to note that you pity any daughter of mine.  You may have noticed in friends of yours (as I have in friends of mine), or in the results of national studies, such as one listed in the response to your article, that immodesty leads to depression, psychological and eating disorders, and sexual immorality.  I pity anyone (gender indiscriminate) not protected from these things, if their parents could have protected them and did not, they are terrible parents.


I addition, I would like to make the following statement, which I do NOT agree with:

&quot;Women have no say in how men should dress.&quot;

Or maybe these:

&quot;Women have no say in how men should think.&quot;
&quot;Women have no say in how men should act.&quot;

You may notice how things might start heading downhill if all women just ignored any problems in all these areas instead of giving encouragement to positive attributes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The point is that men have no say in how women dress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently a few women are offended by immodesty and seem to want a say in how women dress, and you have ignored them.  These are the women that went to the modesty panel, and didn&#8217;t plan on writing an article bashing it.  They went to hear input from men so that they could dress modestly.  They merely wanted to know what the men thought.  The men did not say, you need to dress like this, from what I have heard (every attendee that I have come into contact with except for you) they merely said what could cause them to stumble.  Why would the women care what would cause men to stumble?  Because they love them.  </p>
<p>Conservative Christians are supposed to love everyone, loving them includes holding them close to ourselves AND letting them know when we think they are not in accordance with the Bible.  Also, have you ever witnessed someone trip flat on their face?  Walking should be easy, but apparently people fail, and somebody trips every day! </p>
<p>It is also interesting to note that you pity any daughter of mine.  You may have noticed in friends of yours (as I have in friends of mine), or in the results of national studies, such as one listed in the response to your article, that immodesty leads to depression, psychological and eating disorders, and sexual immorality.  I pity anyone (gender indiscriminate) not protected from these things, if their parents could have protected them and did not, they are terrible parents.</p>
<p>I addition, I would like to make the following statement, which I do NOT agree with:</p>
<p>&#8220;Women have no say in how men should dress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or maybe these:</p>
<p>&#8220;Women have no say in how men should think.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Women have no say in how men should act.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may notice how things might start heading downhill if all women just ignored any problems in all these areas instead of giving encouragement to positive attributes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on modesty article by axisone</title>
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		<dc:creator>axisone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I am agnostic.
2. I pity any daughter of yours.

The point is that men have no say in how women dress. Furthermore, I find it interesting that you equate conservtive Christianity with the Bible. From what I&#039;ve seen, conservatives only follow the parts of the Bible that justify discrimination against people they don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I am agnostic.<br />
2. I pity any daughter of yours.</p>
<p>The point is that men have no say in how women dress. Furthermore, I find it interesting that you equate conservtive Christianity with the Bible. From what I&#8217;ve seen, conservatives only follow the parts of the Bible that justify discrimination against people they don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>Comment on modesty article by Nick Kerner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This article probably won’t make much sense to the fortunate readers who do not attend Cedarville University.&quot;  

For a writer, you do not watch your words very carefully.  You have just stated that a &quot;fortunate reader&quot; does not attend Cedarville University, so I must ask, why do you?  Are your parents forcing you?  Will they only pay for college if you go to Cedarville?  It is not because it is cheap, OH NO! It is clearly not because you like the rules here, that is obvious without proof.  So why?  Maybe a slip of words?

&quot;I believe that conservative Christianity’s obsession with female modesty is oppressive and therefore I’m reposting my article here.&quot;

Do you believe the Bible is oppressive?  It does not allow you to do many other things as well.  Why would you want to wear anything other deem immodest anyway?  Do you wear low necklines and then complain that you are cold?  Probably, so it is not for practicality.  Do you obey Cedarville&#039;s modesty rules so you can tell Jesus that you obeyed your authorities on earth? or do you not obey them because you believe God&#039;s Word tells you to dress immodestly? What I am aiming at is a question, to which I have asked many and not gotten much of a reason, even after giving them time for thought.  Why would you want to dress immodestly anyway?  It is impractical most places (and places where it is practical is no excuse), it is not cute, and it does not look nice.  It looks immodest!  It looks like something I would not let a daughter of mine buy because I have unsaved friends, I know what they are like!  I have an unsaved friend who drove to the beach every weekend this summer and ended up in a different hotel room every night!  Would you be worried about modesty in front of him?  Would you care if you put a wall in front of him getting saved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This article probably won’t make much sense to the fortunate readers who do not attend Cedarville University.&#8221;  </p>
<p>For a writer, you do not watch your words very carefully.  You have just stated that a &#8220;fortunate reader&#8221; does not attend Cedarville University, so I must ask, why do you?  Are your parents forcing you?  Will they only pay for college if you go to Cedarville?  It is not because it is cheap, OH NO! It is clearly not because you like the rules here, that is obvious without proof.  So why?  Maybe a slip of words?</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe that conservative Christianity’s obsession with female modesty is oppressive and therefore I’m reposting my article here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you believe the Bible is oppressive?  It does not allow you to do many other things as well.  Why would you want to wear anything other deem immodest anyway?  Do you wear low necklines and then complain that you are cold?  Probably, so it is not for practicality.  Do you obey Cedarville&#8217;s modesty rules so you can tell Jesus that you obeyed your authorities on earth? or do you not obey them because you believe God&#8217;s Word tells you to dress immodestly? What I am aiming at is a question, to which I have asked many and not gotten much of a reason, even after giving them time for thought.  Why would you want to dress immodestly anyway?  It is impractical most places (and places where it is practical is no excuse), it is not cute, and it does not look nice.  It looks immodest!  It looks like something I would not let a daughter of mine buy because I have unsaved friends, I know what they are like!  I have an unsaved friend who drove to the beach every weekend this summer and ended up in a different hotel room every night!  Would you be worried about modesty in front of him?  Would you care if you put a wall in front of him getting saved?</p>
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		<title>Comment on is religion anti-feminist? by Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a historical article that you may find addresses your question-

http://hubpages.com/hub/minister-female</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a historical article that you may find addresses your question-</p>
<p><a href="http://hubpages.com/hub/minister-female" rel="nofollow">http://hubpages.com/hub/minister-female</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on don&#8217;t tell your gods you no longer believe by Jamie</title>
		<link>http://disturbinginfluence.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/dont-tell-your-gods-you-no-longer-believe/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well some cliches are necessary, valuable, comforting. They are customs, traditions, rituals of humanity. It would be foolish to remove them all. But... obviously a hatred of cliches is not the tip of the tip of the iceberg (hey, a cliche!) of your doubt.

I&#039;m sorry everything hit at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well some cliches are necessary, valuable, comforting. They are customs, traditions, rituals of humanity. It would be foolish to remove them all. But&#8230; obviously a hatred of cliches is not the tip of the tip of the iceberg (hey, a cliche!) of your doubt.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry everything hit at once.</p>
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		<title>Comment on don&#8217;t tell your gods you no longer believe by briome</title>
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		<dc:creator>briome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree...
Praying is something helpful to do in thease hard times but really only works to soothe if you arn&#039;t doubting the purpose of it.
Have you seen &#039;Religulous&quot; - speaking of doubt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;<br />
Praying is something helpful to do in thease hard times but really only works to soothe if you arn&#8217;t doubting the purpose of it.<br />
Have you seen &#8216;Religulous&#8221; &#8211; speaking of doubt?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sarah&#8217;s Updated List of Things That Really Bother Her by Tim</title>
		<link>http://disturbinginfluence.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/sarahs-updated-list-of-things-that-really-bother-her/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for calling out Voddie Baucham. He is a sexist and his vile words sicken me. I applaud you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for calling out Voddie Baucham. He is a sexist and his vile words sicken me. I applaud you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who am I? by Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say keep up the good blogging. It&#039;s nice to hear another feminist voice echoing around the lake-amphitheatre of Cedarville University. By addressing hard issues, we grow as people and as Christians. Thanks for not shying away from unpopular issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say keep up the good blogging. It&#8217;s nice to hear another feminist voice echoing around the lake-amphitheatre of Cedarville University. By addressing hard issues, we grow as people and as Christians. Thanks for not shying away from unpopular issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dannah Gresh&#8217;s response by Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha. and i just lost what tiny bit of respect i still had for dannah gresh. she says &quot;feminist&quot; like it&#039;s a dirty four letter word. feminism is not a cult, but a cause to which all women should band together under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha. and i just lost what tiny bit of respect i still had for dannah gresh. she says &#8220;feminist&#8221; like it&#8217;s a dirty four letter word. feminism is not a cult, but a cause to which all women should band together under.</p>
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